tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post5726717664369920894..comments2023-12-19T08:12:59.428-08:00Comments on Post-Punk Cinema Club: Junoon (1978)a ppcc representativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03533616493105736109noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-71161833430133572992008-05-21T23:05:00.000-07:002008-05-21T23:05:00.000-07:00Filmi Girl - Very true! I think the worst Occident...Filmi Girl - Very true! I think the worst Occidentalist might be Karan Johar. Every film of his finds some way to ridicule/undermine the West, particularly England. I always ask, "Why, Karan?! WHY?!" I think he might be trying to distance himself from too much Westphilia, considering his films have been criticized for being too NRI-heavy.<BR/><BR/>Beth - And who could forget Shashi's horrible monologue at the end of Jab Jab Phool Khile?! Where even using forks and knives looks constrictive and colonial!<BR/><BR/>Shweta - Aww, I'm starting to grow incredibly fond of an older Shashi as well. At least, the two interviews (in the Junoon DVD and the one posted by Bollyviewer in the above comment) of him present such a likable, charming guy that I'm like, "OMG the real Shashi Kapoor is awesome too!" It's even made me start to feel bad about objectifying him so much.<BR/><BR/>Naseer is wonderful as a baddie, though, because I'm schoolgirlish in my movie watching, I want him to be good so much! Hence why I couldn't stand him in Mirch Masala, ironically - if he has no humanity, I start to despair!<BR/><BR/>Filmi Girl - LOL, excellent point! If someone was really clever, they'd make a post on these crazily unrealistic office scenes. I have a soft spot for Trishul, which features ample moments of Sanjeev and Shashi ordering around random peons and then sitting at their desks with steepled fingers.<BR/><BR/>Crazy on Bollywood - Yeah, Shashi's performance was wonderful! Especially since it was so different from the other stuff he was doing at the time (Suhaag, etc.). I can't wait to see Vijeta now!a ppcc representativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03533616493105736109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-23027749553412115002008-05-21T05:12:00.000-07:002008-05-21T05:12:00.000-07:00Junoon is a nice movie to watch.I think Sashi gave...Junoon is a nice movie to watch.I think Sashi gave a fabulous performance.Crazy on Bollywoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02567214174234296757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-75183388420795574342008-05-19T13:16:00.000-07:002008-05-19T13:16:00.000-07:00Beth - Jewel Thief has the ultimate Occidentalism ...Beth - <B>Jewel Thief</B> has the ultimate Occidentalism in a glitter leotard: HELEN!<BR/><BR/>I love any scenes showing "office work" where the writers clearly had no idea what goes on in a typical office - like Shammi in <B>Junglee</B>. Ah, the business of business.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-83089354582238155202008-05-19T12:40:00.000-07:002008-05-19T12:40:00.000-07:00Y is it that the older he gets, the more I love Sh...Y is it that the older he gets, the more I love Shashi?!! He is handsomest to me in Kabhi Kabhi, and even that small lil scene in Ijazat, and in ur last pic he is just so so adorable. <BR/><BR/>Its terrible he and Jen didnt make more movies together ... <BR/><BR/>Also love to hate Naseer here- that man could do bad really good- love him in Mirch masala- but im going off on a tangent again...:DShweta Mehrotra Gahlawathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13543438271055378809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-25206638169650101662008-05-19T12:13:00.000-07:002008-05-19T12:13:00.000-07:00Good point, Filmi Girl. The Occidentalizing streak...Good point, Filmi Girl. The Occidentalizing streak is really fun to track down. <I>Jewel Thief</I> has some pretty good examples.Beth Loves Bollywoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540154833326987567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-5456963209096262642008-05-19T11:13:00.000-07:002008-05-19T11:13:00.000-07:00Whenever I see the word Junoon, I always think of ...Whenever I see the word <I>Junoon</I>, I always think of that song from <I>Rocky</I> with Zayeed Khan's hair blowing around in the wind and Zayeed Khan on a motorcycle - which seems to be a more entertaining association than this film.<BR/><BR/>Interesting point on Said's Orientalism - Occidentalism is a popular theme in Bollywood. (And The Darjeeling Limited's use of the (Canadian-)Indians was pretty terrible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-84730399544083730062008-05-19T03:36:00.000-07:002008-05-19T03:36:00.000-07:00Memsaab - Compliments from Boman!? For the love of...Memsaab - Compliments from Boman!? For the love of God, next you'll tell me he gave you a back rub and then you guys went to see a dance performance. I'm so jealous! And Nafisa is very pretty, it's a nice ocmpliment!<BR/><BR/>Memsaab2 - I KNOW. I have developed a bit of an obsession with the Ploughman's. It is the king of meals.<BR/><BR/>Beth - Oh dear, you're right. And I didn't mean to be so ironical! If the naan is Peshawari, it has my name on it.<BR/><BR/>Bollyviewer - GASP! More Shashi - thank you for the link!<BR/><BR/>Hmm, very good points re: both the supporting characters and Javed's inaction. I'd still say the air of hostility is generally maintained, though there is that wonderful scene where the women relax at the swing. And indeed, Javed is a lot of bark and no bite, with lots of roiling conflict underneath etc. I think the film is certainly very good, and I may have given the impression that I found it oversimplified, which I didn't on the whole. I guess I just had trouble connecting with it on an emotional level (probably because of ignorance - there was so much stuff that I missed or read about afterwards and went, "ooh..."!), and so, for the review, I was wondering aloud if there were any provocative/interesting themes to explore from a largely ignorant POV.<BR/><BR/>Ahhh... watching the Shashi interview now...! Lovin' it! OMG they bring up Shashi/Rekha - one of my fave pairings! Aah!the PPCC is a big fat idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16288839284512965083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-29165856041227232008-05-18T20:36:00.000-07:002008-05-18T20:36:00.000-07:00I am green with envy. My DVD of Junoon didnt come ...I am green with envy. My DVD of Junoon didnt come with any extras let alone a posh-British-accent-English-speaking Shashi. Nehaflix has shortchanged me!!! :(<BR/><BR/>There is a more recent interview of his with Arnab Goswami on <A HREF="http://www.rajshri.com/timesnow/franklyspeaking/index.asp?Page=4" REL="nofollow">Frankly Speaking</A>. He seems to have given up the plummy accent for a more Hindustani flavor these days and wont even admit to ever being good looking!!!<BR/><BR/>Hey, when you say all the Muslims were badly portrayed in the movie, you are forgetting Javed's aunt (Sushma Seth) and his cousins (Jalal Agha, Benjamin Gilani and Deepti Naval) who were shown to be sympathetic and tried to reduce the tension between Javed, his wife and his prisoners. Besides, Javed for all his villainy doesnt once try to enforce his will on his prisoners - isnt that grey?<BR/><BR/>Needless to say, I loved this movie. Guess its a matter of perspective, too. Most of Indian history, literature and movies (that I have come across) portray the British as evil incarnate whereas British literature portrays Indian as heathens needing civilizing. So,it was refreshing to find a movie that is willing to give a more balanced view of a turbulent period in Indian history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-79910405169961456542008-05-18T18:59:00.000-07:002008-05-18T18:59:00.000-07:00I loved Jennifer Kendal's performance in this sooo...I loved Jennifer Kendal's performance in this sooooooo much. It made me angry that she didn't work in more films. <BR/><BR/>Over almost a year of living in the UK, I've never had a ploughman's lunch! But now I want one. Cheddar good. Onions good. Beer good. <BR/><BR/>All this talk of English food would <I>really</I> tick off Sarfaraz. So quick, let me add that I also really like...um...what's the Indian equivalent of a ploughman's lunch? I hope it involves naan.Beth Loves Bollywoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540154833326987567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-45349729218196424132008-05-18T07:22:00.000-07:002008-05-18T07:22:00.000-07:00Ooooh! *claps hands and jumps* but I do love a goo...Ooooh! *claps hands and jumps* but I do love a good ploughman's lunch!!!! cheddar! pickles!! beer!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-64985205914767817932008-05-18T07:21:00.000-07:002008-05-18T07:21:00.000-07:00*furtive whisper* I too found Junoon BORING...its ...*furtive whisper* I too found Junoon BORING...its impeccable pedigree notwithstanding, I could not take much interest in it although I did make it through in one sitting.<BR/><BR/>Also *looks around nervously* I don't really like Shyam Benegal in general.<BR/><BR/>I watched this because Boman decided that I look like Nafisa Ali---which I don't---and roped in other people on the BKB set to concur. So I was curious. But he was wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com