tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post6574633079063363580..comments2023-12-19T08:12:59.428-08:00Comments on Post-Punk Cinema Club: Democracy kind of failed. Back to tyrrany.a ppcc representativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03533616493105736109noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-25680286125556616292008-06-20T22:38:00.000-07:002008-06-20T22:38:00.000-07:00I can appreciate a good article from a music-snob ...I can appreciate a good article from a music-snob or even a movie-snob (since I am accused of being one from time to time) but in this case the author had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. I have asked Muslim friends (both Indian & Pakistani) and they all agree that filmi quwwalis can carry the same gravitas and beauty that 'real' ones do. In addition they feel that since most people get their quota of Desi culture from Bollywood - that without filmi ones most people would never get to hear them.<BR/><BR/>Also, I feel that filmi quwwalis allow something I don't think you would see in real life - the songs sung by female singers. Case & point is my personal favorite, the title song from 'Hum Kisise Kum Nahin' sung by Rafi & Asha - acted on screen by Rishi Kapoor and Zeenat Aman. 'Pardah Hai Pardah' has the respect of everyone I know that is a music fan and Rafi is one of the few singers that can do songs like that.<BR/><BR/>P.S. to anrchivist - the song from Bobby is 'Beshak Mandir Masjid' by the singer Chanchal. AAA to the top of your queue is the only place for it ;)Sanket Vyashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00410998671085464946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-20559464024549107962008-06-20T05:29:00.000-07:002008-06-20T05:29:00.000-07:00Thanks, everybody, for the "my favorite qawwali" p...Thanks, everybody, for the "my favorite qawwali" posts. Now I can get those on my list! Speaking of which, the phrase "tinsel wilderness" just drove "Amar Akbar Anthony" to the top of my Netflix queue.Anarchivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06599522097057431891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-43053670007096681312008-06-19T13:56:00.000-07:002008-06-19T13:56:00.000-07:00Because I am nosy AND like to do research, I found...Because I am nosy AND like to do research, I found a bio of the author of the allmusic article. http://en.world.freemusic.cz/index.php/about-us/ken-hunt-bio/Beth Loves Bollywoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540154833326987567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-48310800009512091832008-06-19T10:53:00.000-07:002008-06-19T10:53:00.000-07:00I own "Mard" but have not had the pleasure of view...I own "Mard" but have not had the pleasure of viewing it yet. I look forward to your review!<BR/><BR/>Filmi qawwalis are a mixed bag just like filmi <I>anything</I> is a mixed bag.<BR/><BR/>I do not approve of the disdain in the line from that awful "Allmusic" article: "By contrast the tinsel wilderness of Amar Akbar Anthony (1977) reduced qawwali to a low-budget parody of a Las Vegas chorus line."<BR/><BR/>Oh, give me a break, music snob guy! "Tinsel wilderness"?Filmi Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09292362161639177666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-49077034223565045112008-06-19T08:10:00.000-07:002008-06-19T08:10:00.000-07:00You need to ask Filmi Geek about qawwalis. She's g...You need to ask Filmi Geek about qawwalis. She's got lists of them.<BR/><BR/>And I just got <I>Karz</I> - let's make that happen! Also, coincidentally, I just read about <I>Mard</I> for the first time yesterday and thought "I have GOT to see that."Beth Loves Bollywoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540154833326987567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-63394656469976425462008-06-19T07:17:00.000-07:002008-06-19T07:17:00.000-07:00A lot of filmi qawwalis don't really have religiou...A lot of filmi qawwalis don't really have religious lyrics, which I suppose if you are a purist would make it actually NOT a qawwali...but I love the style and tempo of them. One of my very favorites is from Dharmputra "Yeh Jo Dil Deewana"---the guy who plays the singer is very charismatic, and Rafi sings it so well.<BR/><BR/>And no subtitles??? Grumpy Uncle Ji better make good on those.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-7318055212260913862008-06-19T01:53:00.000-07:002008-06-19T01:53:00.000-07:00Ooh, can I take this occasion to pimp my favourite...Ooh, can I take this occasion to pimp my favourite, qawwali-soaked, Hindi film <B><I>Barsaat Ki Raat</I></B>? Here's what Philip's Filums has to say about it:<BR/><BR/>"it has a memorable score, with lyrics by the great Sahir Ludhianvi (an Urdu poet doubtless most in his element when—as here—composing for a film about Urdu poets), sung by a stellar list of playback singers, and culminating in a series of dazzling qawwali performances (of love-saturated and Sufi-inflected couplets on the pleasures and pains of love) that are among the best ever filmed."<BR/>http://www.uiowa.edu/~incinema/BarsaatKiRaat.html<BR/><BR/>...I totally concur! And it has three heroines who are strong, determined women. And Bharat Bhushan is a cutie. Ticks all my boxes for sure.<BR/><BR/>Sorry I can't provide any more intellectual enlightenment on qawwalis in film, but if you find any I'd love to read about it on your blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-458490431357994002008-06-18T22:09:00.000-07:002008-06-18T22:09:00.000-07:00Qawwalis are the only form of music in our movies ...Qawwalis are the only form of music in our movies these days that always hits the chord...infact cum to think of it, they have always been a success..I liked the scene in Jodha Akbaar's khwaja mere khwaja..thats d original form of qawwali sung at shrines in praise of lord.<BR/>In the end Akbar was sooo moved with it that he joined tham..dat indeed is the power of qawwali.Silent Melodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02268965304596259026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-38400881814259171332008-06-18T20:36:00.000-07:002008-06-18T20:36:00.000-07:00YAY! I knew my favorite movie would triumph, i hop...YAY! I knew my favorite movie would triumph, i hope you guys enjoy as much as i did with the General Curzon statue that looks soooo much like Shashi if u zooom or look very carefully. And its just like dharam-veer it doesn't know what century it is set in, so with tanks gunpowder comes gladiator clad fathers and flamenco clad Amrita. Hope u laugh out loud its hilarious!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-65561553735466993912008-06-18T16:06:00.000-07:002008-06-18T16:06:00.000-07:00If it weren't for qawwalis, I wouldn't know anythi...If it weren't for qawwalis, I wouldn't know anything about Sufism, since they inspired me to research the topic. Coming from a religious background myself, I would think that anything that causes inquiry into that religion would be considered a good thing. I think qawwalis are beautiful and a fun way to elevate the mood of what might be a typical love story else. That article reminds me of stuff from Focus on the Family in its overreaction to the subject, only referring to Islam rather than Christianity. However, I'm not Muslim so perhaps I'm missing some sort of denigration... Also I was just looking up qawwali today so that's funny that you posted this. Have you seen this article? http://www.dayafterindia.com/dec206/silver_screen1.htmlajnabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08296593338690811213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79723819638700739.post-91704599276580288482008-06-18T14:23:00.000-07:002008-06-18T14:23:00.000-07:00Crazy! I was just looking up books about qawwali t...Crazy! I was just looking up books about qawwali today, so maybe that's a sign. <BR/><BR/>I love, love, love the qawwali, and the one in Omkara (like the one is Maqbool) is a great example. <BR/><BR/>Also, there's a scene in Bobby that exemplifies the greatness of the qawwali. The young lovers have had a very Pretty in Pink-like misunderstanding, and she's gone off in a huff. He follows her, and then he gets beaten up. He ends up, sitting at the campfire while she hides in a tent, so near and yet so far. Meanwhile, an old guy is sitting there, singing the most heart-wrenching qawwali. The music totally ennobles what could otherwise be the dumb teen romance quality of the whole thing.<BR/><BR/>Nothing against "Hopelessly Devoted to You," say, but it just can't possibly compare to that. <BR/><BR/>I'm blanking on the name of the song, but I'll look it up when I get home...Anarchivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06599522097057431891noreply@blogger.com